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What software are you using?

  • 1.  What software are you using?

    Posted 01-28-2014 12:20 PM

    We are a two person firm and have the Autodesk Building Design Suite Premium subscription. As many of you might know, Autodesk has gone completely to a subscription based product and it now costs us quite a bit each year to maintain.

    Last year they "upgraded" us to the Premium because they were eliminating the lower level that we had originally selected, which I think meant that we now had to pay a couple hundred more per copy/per year for the subscription. We were stuck - simply didn't have a choice. If we choose not to renew each year, then when we do need to upgrade in 3-5 years, we will have to repurchase the entire package again at full price. Their selling point is that we now have access to a whole group of software including Revit, AutoCAD, 3D Studio, and about 3-4 others.

    BUT - we only really use Revit and AutoCAD. While that other software is nice, our projects are entirely too small to really need or use most of the software now available to us.

    I know most of the CRAN members are in smaller offices and I wondered what software do you use and what are some of the advantages and disadvantages? Thanks!

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    Brenda Nelson Assoc. AIA
    Woodruff Design, LLC
    Ankeny IA
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  • 2.  RE:What software are you using?

    Posted 01-29-2014 05:57 PM

    Boy do I feel your pain. After using AutoCAD and Architectural Desktop since the 80's I to was strong armed by Autodesk and in a bad economy just could not justify the costs. I let my subscription lapse because they were forcing me into an expensive suite I don't want or need. It is my opinion that Autodesk has deliberately forsaken the small practitioner.

    My workflow now consists of my old AutoCAD 2013 and Sketchup. I have not drawn an elevation in almost 2 years all my elevations come out of my sketchup model and there are some people doing some amazing graphics with Sketchup and Layout. Don't be fooled by the low price this stuff is powerful in the right hands and it's FUN.

    Check out  http://www.brightmantal.com/ and http://www.nicksonder.com

    It will be interesting to see what Autodesk does when they see a mass exodus as a result of their insensitive policy.

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    Christopher Caponigro AIA
    Owner
    Christopher F. Caponigro
    Charleston SC
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  • 3.  RE:What software are you using?

    Posted 01-30-2014 09:57 PM
    ArchiCAD is by far the best software available for Architecture. Revit was designed to emulate ArchiCAD and wasn't created for many years after ArchiCAD came out. In fact, ArchiCAD has been the same 3D based BIM program since the beginning and it first hit the shelves about the same time AutoCAD did in the 80s. When I first started using it in 1997, you could have a MAC and a PC working in the same file at the same time. In 1997, you had to have special software just to get MACs and PCs to share the same printer and it didn't work very well. From what I understand, you still need to run Revit from Boot Camp if you want to use a MAC. Since MicroStation dropped MAC, there are few choices left if you like the elegance of that type of computer. Funny how MACs are designed like sleek, modernist Architecture, yet few American Architects use them because of software. ArchiCAD is more icon based than verbal command line based, as it's used in every industrialized country around the world. It's very user friendly, yet very powerful and can open or save in many, many file formats making it one of the most compatible and cooperative programs. Sure, you can cherry pick a few favorite commands, but ArchiCAD will always be the original and a step ahead, the others are just emulators.

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    Eric Rawlings AIA
    Owner
    Rawlings Design, Inc.
    Decatur GA
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  • 4.  RE:What software are you using?

    Posted 02-03-2014 11:21 AM

    Hi Brenda,

    I also drank the ArchiCAD kool-aid along with David, Eric, and Jared. The program is such a joy to work with. It was designed for architects, is intuitive to work with, and is just a beautiful piece of user-friendly software. Graphisoft, the company that produces ArchiCAD, has been a regular CRAN symposium sponsor.

    Like many architects in the pre-computer era, I viewed drafting as artwork. So transitioning to CAD was a difficult step, but one that I was forced into by an international client. One of the luckiest turns in my career was AutoCAD deciding to drop their Mac based program just as I began looking at software.

    With ArchiCAD I now begin every schematic design as a 3D model. This model is also the beginning of design development and construction documents. The transition between phases of work has become quite blurred. Everything is linked and automatically updated in a completely seamless process. Each residential project is built right down to the 3D light switches and outlets, which also shows up as the 2D electrical plan.

    For me there is never a question about whether a project is too small for ArchiCAD. I usually have at least one custom cabinetry project going on and last year a client's dog hired me for his new house. I've actually found that ArchiCAD has made smaller projects more profitable by creating an efficient process where clients can quickly grasp and approve the proposed design (although Sherlock was a bit more interested in dog biscuits). Since the construction documents are being developed by default during the design phase, I can bang out a set of detailed drawings along with another client invoice.

    The initial cost is certainly formidable, and I also maintain a subscription with Graphisoft. Each year I pay the fee but easily recoup that expense with the new features that speed up and simplify the process. Years ago in my Boston office I would have 2 draftspersons helping to produce what I currently achieve with ArchiCAD. The program even works well on a laptop where I can average 12 hours of billable time each month while flying between job sites. Ultimately it's about the bottom line, and ArchiCAD certainly delivers.

    The latest version of ArchiCAD (version 17) offers an amazingly powerful iPad interface. A sophisticated 3D model and its construction documents can be exported with a click of the mouse. Finger controls are used to spin around and walk through the model. There are hot-spots throughout the model that link directly to each 2D drawing. The interface is unbelievable fast, and the graphics are stunning. I used this feature for the first time last week and blew away the clients. And better yet, we had an extremely productive meeting because of this new interface.

    LearnVirtual, based in San Francisco, offers a weekly webinar for ArchiCAD users. It's a very informative production and well worth the cost of admission. They also maintain a large video library covering all aspects of ArchiCAD.

    Anyways, I can go on and on about ArchiCAD but time now for another sip of that tasty kool-aid.



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    John Black AIA
    Partner
    Lapis Design Partners LLC
    Honolulu HI
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  • 5.  RE:What software are you using?

    Posted 02-04-2014 09:01 PM
    If you have already invested in Revit and trained to use it, I would encourage you to stick with it (I do not work for Autodesk . . . ). I am a solo practitioner and I got into Revit in 2009 when I was "downsized" from a corporate firm. At that time Autodesk was offering a 1-year license for free, so I took them up on the offer. Once I learned the basics and understood there was no going back to 2D CAD, I decided to invest in Revit.

    Like you I was upgraded to the suite and still only use Revit and occasionally AutoCAD. I think the software you like the best is the one that is most productive for you. There are many good ones out there. We all have to bite the bullet on the subscription cost, but in my case the ROI from increased productivity justifies the cost. Revit is a great program. It does everything I need and then some. If I get commercial work, Revit doesn't blink. If I am doing a kitchen remodel with construction phasing or a whole new custom house the software capability is there. Third-party add-ins (like Keynote Manager) are inexpensive and boost productivity.

    I'd stick with Revit.

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    Alan Kanter Architect
    Aptos CA
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  • 6.  RE:What software are you using?

    Posted 01-29-2014 05:59 PM

    Hi Brenda,

    I've got the same problem with Microstation, another industrial strength software.  I now have access to a variety of software that I never use (structural, mechanical, electrical) but might be of use to a large office.  Bentley seems to have give up on small practitioners  Not sure what I would do if I weren't already invested in their system.

    Chris.

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    Christopher Craven AIA
    Christopher Craven Architecture
    Miami Beach FL
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  • 7.  RE:What software are you using?

    Posted 01-29-2014 09:49 PM

    Brenda, I am faced with a similar, but different, scenario.


    At my former, multi-person firm, I had AutoCAD and ArchiCAD platforms. A little over a year ago, I started my new single-practitioner firm, and last Summer, began looking at CAD systems for me.

    I passed up on ArchiCAD as I felt it was too complex for what I wanted, so I started toward Revit. But like you found, it is bundled with 11 different systems, and with training, it's a $7,600 investment...plus my time. Not much of a return on investment when I am designing and documenting one-of-a-kind custom houses.


    On the other hand, our first CAD program in 1984 was DataCAD, and it looks as if I will be returning to the barn with their DataCAD 16 version for only $1,300. And it's designed by an architect, so it's very intuitive.

    Yes, it does not have all the bells, whistles, foghorns, klaxons, and sirens of the Autodesk Building Design Suite Premium, but I am not designing the mechanical systems for my houses, nor is it productive for me to spend 40 hours on a fly-through movie when I can still do a pretty good Paper Mate Flair rendering on trace.

    Look into DataCAD.

    Doug

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    W. Douglas Gilpin, Jr. FAIA

    W. Douglas Gilpin, Jr. FAIA - Architect, PLC
    Charlottesville, VA and Block Island, RI
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  • 8.  RE:What software are you using?

    Posted 01-30-2014 05:46 PM
    If you aren't interested in using a full BIM program like ArchiCAD or Revit (because of cost, subscription fees, or program complexity), I have two recommendations: 1) go free or super cheap. There are a lot of autocad clones out there. Pick one. You'll be able to work like you are using 2D acad, you'll be able to save and open dwgs. It.ll be like 1999 and you'll be happy. 2) if you want to keep a toe in the BIM world, look into ArchiCAD START or Revit LT. Both are around $2k. Not cheap but will let you do a lot of things. I'm not a SketchUp fan, but a third route is to just buy SketchUp Pro and stop bothering with CAD. If you really need some cad work, then use an acad clone like above. I have a former coworker who does this. Never touches CAD or BIM. just sketch up. All these routes have longer drawbacks (ei, the world is going BIM and you'll need it for large projects), but that's besides the point. Of course if you want to go BIM, I'm a huge fan of ArchiCAD and can talk endlessly about why it's a great direction to go. But BIM isn't for everyone and that's okay. For now. ------------------------------------------- Jared Banks AIA Newton MA -------------------------------------------
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  • 9.  RE:What software are you using?

    Posted 01-29-2014 09:50 PM

    Hi Brenda,

    I've been using ArchiCAD for the last 10 years or so.  Started at version 7, and have versions up to 12, although I'm presently running version 9 for most projects.  The software is up to version 17, now.  I don't generally participate in software 'arms races', as I'm a one-man-show, but users of the later versions are all happy with them... At least as happy as you can be with any software of such complexity (by any company).

    It's a full BIM package and does all the stuff we need to do for custom residential beautifully.  There's a nice, vibrant community of users who are great folks.  I highly recommend you visit the Graphisoft 'ArchiCAD Talk' forum:  http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/ .  There, you can ask any specific questions you may have and you'll get some quick answers.

    The software was written from day one with an architect's 'culture' in mind, unlike ACAD which really started as just a general drafting program.  I'm a recovering ACAD user. <g>

    It's not subscription based... You buy it, you own it, outright.  What you're really purchasing is a USB hardware key which you plug in to your drafting machine or network server, which activates the software.  As far as I know, they don't have any intent to go subscription based.  You can download a demo version for free at Graphisoft's site and take it for a spin.

    It'll read and write files in IFC, DWG, DXF, and many other formats so you can easily interface with your consultants.  It'll also export to many third-party packages for rendering and presentation.  Here's my personal suite of packages:

    ArchiCAD 9 (sometimes 12).
    Artlantis Studio for rendering.
    FBX Converter for making FBX files out of 3DS files to import to...
    Unity 4.0 game engine software... Which makes a walkable 3D model with materials assigned, lighting, etc.

    I don't do the walk-through in Unity for every job, but sometimes clients want it.  Another tool for that is BIMx, which is similar to a game engine, but the plug-in for that only comes with the later versions of ArchiCAD (I think starting at 16).  Looks nice, though.

    I love ArchiCAD.. It's fast, intuitive (at least for me), and allows you to produce great looking DD and CD packages.  You can see some sample CD sets at my website:  www.dmsdesign.us .  Go to the 'Plan Room' link and I have some current projects posted, as well as a pretty extreme set of CD's for a house in Hawaii my buddy Paul Bleck and I did a few years ago.  One thing to have in mind is that all the drawings you see in that set are 'live' from the model... There's hardly any 2D 'patching' to make them presentable.  About the only things I add to my elevations and sections are dimensions and annotation... The rest of it is all the model.   On some jobs, I model the building right down to the studs.

    ArchiCAD has a native programming language called GDL (Graphic Description Language) which allows you to create your own custom, PARAMETRIC objects for inclusion in the model.  On my 'Links' page I have my custom object library available to download for free... Quite a few users out there use my goodies in their own projects, and I have quite a few written by other guys and gals in the community that I use myself (which they also generally offer to the community for free). 

    On my 'Renderings' page, you can see some samples of the Artlantis software output.  Artlantis is really great.. Super-fast and easy to use.

    I don't work for Graphisoft.. Just like the product. :-)

    Hope that helps!

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    David M. Sanders, Architect
    Orange County, CA
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  • 10.  RE:What software are you using?

    Posted 01-30-2014 09:19 AM

    Brenda,

    It seems like this conversation pops up every 6 months or so and it is an important one for our industry.

    I will share my experience with this.  And note that I am a sole proprietor and work on Residential and smaller scale commercial projects.

    I have been an AutoCAD user since the early 90s.  Mostly plain old flatCAD AutoCAD with limited 3D work.  Early 3D was not as easy to incorporate into the work back then.

    When I started my own firm 7 years ago I realized I needed to have 3D capability.  When I priced out full versions of AutoCAD Archit. desktop and Revit with the necessary add-on products I received some sticker shock.  I quickly looked into alternatives and read up on everything including ArchiCAD, Vectorworks, Softplan and Chief Architect.

    I settled on Chief Architect for a few reasons; it gave me instant 3D capability, low upfront costs, standalone product (i.e. I didn't have to figure out what options and add-ons were needed), good support and user forums, and it was fairly user friendly in that I got up and running on it quickly.  I was able to produce CDs right away albeit slowly at first.

    I think current purchase price for premium version is about $2,500 and If you elect you can pay the yearly subscription of $395 which gets you access to yearly product upgrades, user videos and many other support features.  I am not sure if additional seats are discounted.  I do pay the subscription fee and have made good use of the features and upgrades.

    Other positives.....good manufacturer 3D models available such as Andersen & Marvin Windows, can import SketchUp models from the web, can export to AutoCad format, has cost estimating feature built in.  The product has improved greatly since I started using it.

    The biggest negative I have found is on my commercial projects when my consultants are all using AutoCad.  When I export a plan file for them to use as a base drawing I have to go through a drawing clean up to make it more usable to them.  I also have to keep a version of AutoCAD LT so I can do this cleanup work and also view and edit other AutoCAD files when needed.

    In summary I am having success using Chief Architect in my practice.  Most of my clientele do not know and or care which software I use.  All they care about us that my designs and presentations are good and my construction drawings are well prepared.  I realize this software is not for everybody but it is certainly worth taking a closer look for smaller firms.

    I hope this helps.

    Regards,
    Mike Dolce



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    Michael Dolce AIA
    Owner / Architect
    Michael P. Dolce, AIA Architect
    Forest Hill MD
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  • 11.  RE:What software are you using?

    Posted 01-30-2014 01:07 PM
    I've worked with Autocad, Revit, Archicad, ProgeCad, Nanocad, Draftsight, Google SketchUp, etc. All this software and constant software, at the end the only universal software I have ever came across is: Paper & pencil/pen/brush.


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    Richard Balkins, Assoc. AIA
    Building Designer / owner
    Richard W.C. Balkins, Building Designer
    Astoria, OR

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  • 12.  RE:What software are you using?

    Posted 01-30-2014 06:34 PM
    FYI - Autodesk will negotiate price just like a car dealer - we were able to get the premium suite down to $4300/seat. They won't negotiate on the annual subscription price but they are willing to discount the initial purchases substantially. Also, rebates are available if coming from other versions - even Autocad LT to Revit - we are receiving an additional $750 mail-in vouchers for LT licenses which will bring the cost down to $3500/seat.

    Tell everyone you know... don't pay full price!

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    Jason Leach Assoc. AIA
    Fitzsimmons Architects
    Oklahoma City OK
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  • 13.  RE:What software are you using?

    Posted 02-06-2014 12:19 PM
    I adopted Archicad about 4 years ago after using a combination of autocad LT and sketchup for many years.  I have been skipping every other version before upgrading to save money, but Archicad DOES have a subscription package and  I would not be surprised if they eventually go the way of subscription only--after all what Archicad user is going to jump ship after spending years learning to use the program?

     I love it for the reasons others have mentioned, and because it everything is modelled in 3d I hardly use sketchup at all anymore, but here are the two most difficult parts of the transition:  first, as I mentioned, it is an incredible investment in time to learn to use because it has so many complex features; second, in my market it is extremely difficult (impossible) to find interns who know how to use the program, so I have to train them, and then hope they stick around long enough to recoup that investment.  Whereas with Revit I imagine they are productive on day 1.

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    David Brach AIA
    Principal
    Brach Design
    Salt Lake City UT
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  • 14.  RE:What software are you using?

    Posted 02-07-2014 07:06 PM
    When I was an intern (1995), I had a few years of AutoCAD experience and was proficient enough to use it's clumsy 3D features (release 13). I felt like that was quite an investment at the time. Then I started working for an ArchiCAD firm and picked it up rather quickly. Funny how a young recent college grad can pick things up like that. I worked at that firm for 7 years, while many of my friends spent no more than 4 years at one place. Of course, that was before the Housing (Job) Crisis. After that I started working for myself using ArchiCAD and even consulted with a commercial firm, training their staff. Because I was one of a few that was very proficient at the program, it made me more marketable as an expert, which helped me land that job. One might argue that learning a better program, that isn't the standard, may keep employees around longer like myself. Sort of like those of us who have become fond of our MACs. Once you go MAC, you never wanna go back.

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    Eric Rawlings AIA
    Owner
    Rawlings Design, Inc.
    Decatur GA
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  • 15.  RE:What software are you using?

    Posted 02-10-2014 05:32 PM
    Brenda: I am using Vectorworks and AutoCAD LT on a Mac. I use Vectorworks for everything including working drawings and beautiful 3D models. I only use AutoCAD when I need to receive drawings from others that may use it. I am happy with my CAD setup. 

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    Daniel Alter AIA
    Daniel Alter Architect PLLC
    Brooklyn NY
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  • 16.  RE:What software are you using?

    Posted 02-11-2014 05:40 PM
    If you have already invested in Revit and trained to use it, I would encourage you to stick with it (I do not work for Autodesk . . . ). I am a solo practitioner and I got into Revit in 2009 when I was "downsized" from a corporate firm. At that time Autodesk was offering a 1-year license for free, so I took them up on the offer. Once I learned the basics and understood there was no going back to 2D CAD, I decided to invest in Revit.

    Like you I was upgraded to the suite and still only use Revit and occasionally AutoCAD. I think the software you like the best is the one that is most productive for you. There are many good ones out there. We all have to bite the bullet on the subscription cost, but in my case the ROI from increased productivity justifies the cost. Revit is a great program. It does everything I need and then some. If I get commercial work, Revit doesn't blink. If I am doing a kitchen remodel with construction phasing or a whole new custom house the software capability is there. Third-party add-ins (like Keynote Manager) are inexpensive and boost productivity.

    I'd stick with Revit.

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    Alan Kanter Architect
    Aptos CA
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  • 17.  RE:What software are you using?

    Posted 02-13-2014 11:21 AM
    I have been limping along wit AutoCAD LT in various versions since 2000, supplemented by a lot of freehand work and am finally looking to step up to a more sophisticated system. I am somewhat of a dinosaur with regard to the technology.   I have downloaded a trial version of Revit LT and plan on giving that a try.  I have been enticed by the marketing materials for programs like Chief Architect and SoftPlan with their focus on residential and would appreciate any guidance the group could give on those 2 programs along with Revit LT.
    Thanks for the help.

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    James Duffey AIA
    Scituate MA
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  • 18.  RE:What software are you using?

    Posted 02-14-2014 06:56 PM
    I spent 100+ hours playing with Chief Architect recently. I would rate it as a "Good" mid-level drawing system. The catalogs of standard fixtures are a plus. So long as you are doing "standard" designs it works well. But if you are a creative architect and stretch the envelop in your design it has problems. It does what it does well, but try to do something out of the ordinary and you are in trouble. I spent probably 20 hours trying to get it to make a floating staircase. No luck. Non-rectangular windows? Forget it. Floating vanity? No way. They have gurus on call that can often figure out how to get the program do so what you want, but why should I go thru 60 steps to do something just a little bit out of the ordinary?  It is a good introduction to this type of software but sooner than later you'll need to move on to a more capable system.

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    Maurice White
    W Designs LLC
    Miami FL
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  • 19.  RE:What software are you using?

    Posted 02-18-2014 01:40 PM

    My CAD/BIM software of choice  - as a residential sole practitioner - is SoftPlan.  This program is affordable, easy to learn and very intuitive.  Best of all, it comes programmed ready to use, out of the box (contains major mfr's  - i.e.  Andersen, Marvin, Pella) with symbol libraries, etc.  There is some programming required, but not near the extent of Revit!

    Someone mentioned Chief Arch....like Chief, soft plan is more programmed for basic houses (and light commercial projects) so, if one is working on something with unconventional forms, there will need to be some thought out side the box - but, it can be done!  SP also has great tech support! 

    I think it is important, especially for the small firm, to critically consider the "best fit" BIM software.  I have known many small offices to pick the industry leader, to only have it sitting on a shelf years later - as again, the amount of time spent programming is detrimental to the profitability of the small office. 

    Don't be swayed by industry leader statistics.   Pick the software that is the best fit for your practice!
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    Edward Shannon AIA
    Architect
    Imprint Architects
    Des Moines IA
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  • 20.  RE:What software are you using?

    Posted 02-12-2014 11:04 AM
    I learned Autocad the hard way 15 years ago, then discovered Archicad, it puts a smile on my face every day.  No matter how small your projects are, I think we all need to get onto BIM software, so many of our competitors outside the profession are using 3d modeling, including Home Depot's cabinet department.  The beauty of Archicad, Revit or Vectorworks over Sketchup is that one file, one program serves all your needs in one coordinated format that takes you all the way thru the process.  I chose Archicad as a one person office because I did not like the feeling of being preyed on by Autodesk.  I also wanted a program that would not have limitations for me to do anything I wanted in the future.  I have been totally satisfied.  note that the upgrade each year is about 600-700  and you are pretty much forced to do that to avoid more expensive upgrades later.  I have embraced that over time as sensible and the upgrades are quite good on features.  Note that creating mostly 2d documents is way better in BIM than Autocad for speed and coordination.
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    Saxon Sigerson AIA
    Sigerson Architects
    Fair Oaks CA
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  • 21.  RE:What software are you using?

    Posted 02-14-2014 03:24 PM
    A quick plug for the Vectorworks software that we have been using since before Revit or Archicad came into being.  Forward thinking entity, software is easy to learn (especially if below 25), very robust 3-d using the Parasolid kernel, and the license subscription is $397 per year to stay up dated. A David in a Goliath world!

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    Bil Taylor AIA
    Bil Taylor Assoc. Inc. (Taylor Design & Build)
    Tucson AZ
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  • 22.  RE:What software are you using?

    Posted 02-19-2014 05:30 PM
    I use Revit. My training was luckily subsidized by the various firms I'd worked for in the past several years. Having made the switch from drafting to BIM there is no way I'd go back. For designing I sketch and building models in SketchUp. Even during the technical stages of a job I study complex details with 3D models in SketchUp. 

    But I also recommend DraftSight as a free and excellent CAD program. It opens and saves dwg files, can backsave to the previous versions and even uses a lot of the same standard shortcuts as AutoCAD. For a 2D workflow it is really great and the price can't be beat.

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    Scott M B Gustafson -  Assoc. AIA, Arkitekt MSA, LEED AP
    Partner
    MAISON ORION
    Los Angeles California
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  • 23.  RE:What software are you using?

    Posted 02-20-2014 10:35 AM
    If I were forced (financially or otherwise) to select a single program to aid my design, it would without a doubt be Revit. As people have stated here before, it is one program that can handle it all--large, medium, small; new or renovation. Obviously it is still just a productivity tool and the tools will always be subject to change. Do not make the [surprisingly common] mistake of believing that Revit (or any program) is capable of producing designs, rather than simply documenting designs (however efficiently).

    Also, I skimmed through a comment or two that Revit requires some sort of up-front programming--once it's installed, you're ready to go out of the box. No programming needed.

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    Christopher Clark Assoc. AIA
    Architectural Intern
    Schaefer Johnson Cox Frey Architecture, Inc.
    Wichita KS
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  • 24.  RE:What software are you using?

    Posted 02-21-2014 01:59 PM
    I completely agree- once you make the switch to BIM there's no going back- for ease of drawing coordination at the very least! I'm curious about your use of SketchUp and Revit together- is there something about Revit that makes this necessary or a good combo? I've been using Archicad for many years and find it easy to model everything from design concept through details for a wide range of projects and output dwg files as needed.

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    Jean Terwilliger AIA
    Principal
    Jean Terwilliger Architect
    Cornwall VT
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  • 25.  RE:What software are you using?

    Posted 02-24-2014 05:33 PM
    I used SketchUp Pro for awhile. Once I learned Revit, SketchUp became redundant. It just takes up space on my hard drive now . . .

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    Alan Kanter AIA
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  • 26.  RE:What software are you using?

    Posted 02-25-2014 05:46 PM
    I currently use DataCAD.  I tried to go the AutoCAD route when I was laid off and was doing some contractual work with some other firms. But when you have been using another program (DataCAD) day in and day out, it is hard to make the switch.  

    Thankfully most of my clients have not had a need for 3D models.  DataCAD does have a 3D model capability, but have never used it to its capability.  If I need a 3D model, SketchUP will be the program of choice.

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    Jason Hoppe Assoc. AIA
    Owner
    JH Designs
    Louisville KY
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