Greetings,
Thank you, again, everyone, for your insights. I am sharing my experience here in case it is of benefit to anyone.
I believe I just bought a Dell Precision (although I haven't received the confirmation email).
It was a painful process as the first advisor put me on hold, and then the call was cut-off on her end. The 2nd Dell advisor was trying to get a discounted price approved, which was apparently rejected - and after 24 hours I have not yet received an actual email copy of the quote (some internal Dell issue with sending the quote). I mentioned the AIA discount and was told that he was offering me more discounts (which never came to fruition), so the Dell advisor never even took the AIA code from me.
Finally, 24 hours later, with no news, I talked with a 3rd Dell advisor. I insisted on walking through the entire Precision laptop online selection process this time and used the AIA Dell coupon and was able to get the computer for approx $2430. I purchased Precision 5680, starting price online at $2589. Note, because of my time limitations, I picked a preconfigured one that meets my requirements.
The specs: I3th Gen Intel® Core™ i7-13800H, Windows 11 Pro, NVIDIA® RTX™ 3500 Ada Generation, 32 GB LPDDR5, 1 TB SSD, 16.0-in. display Full HD+ (1920X1200). I declined Anti-virus, MS office and other options as I can source them separately.
I did consider HP Firefly - they were able to offer me better pricing, and better sales service, however I opted for Dell based on advice from other local architects that their service is better.
Original Message:
Sent: 6/25/2024 2:21:00 PM
From: Larry Goldberg AIA Member Emeritus
Subject: RE: Computer system reccomendations
thanks for your guidance. surprised no one else has chimed in. There are so many variations of the precision line, wouldn't even know where to start so sticking with xps, especially with Costco's return policies seems to make most sense for me at this stage.
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Larry Goldberg AIA Member Emeritus
larry goldberg architect, aia, ncarb
morganville, nj
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Original Message:
Sent: 06-24-2024 06:31 PM
From: Michael Schneider
Subject: Computer system reccomendations
Larry,
I think the preconfigured hardware from Costco, Best Buy, etc will work fine and I used the XPS line for several years. The Precision line is "certified" by Autodesk and XPS is not. I didn't even realize that until Autodesk tech support used that as an unknown variable when we were having an application error. For the extra cost vs risk of losing billable hours in that kind of argument, I started buying the Precision line. Its Dell support line is better too with shorter waits and dedicated staff. The only way to really compare costs is to configure a Precision machine online and look at the retail source XPS.
Getting the AIA discount is a bit convoluted. Log into your AIA membership and search for Dell Discount. A page with Hertz, Avis, UPS, Fed Ex, and Dell comes up. Click on that link and enter your email address to get discount codes emailed to you. (I guess non-members used AIA discount codes). I just checked and current discounts are 10% off Optiplex, Latitude, Precision, and PowerEdge lines and networking accessories. 5% off Inspiron, XPS, Alienware, and Vostro. Also, 5% off Displays and Client Peripherals.
Their rewards program is another percent or two to apply to future purchases and can be useful when you want to get a monitor or docking station. Sometimes, mine expire unused. I hope this helps.
Mike Schneider
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Michael Schneider AIA
Quadrant Design, Inc.
Waterloo IL
Original Message:
Sent: 06-24-2024 05:32 PM
From: Larry Goldberg AIA Member Emeritus
Subject: Computer system reccomendations
Michael,
how do you compare the precision workstation to the xps line? also, what steps do you take to enable the aia discount? I am looking at Costco for a dell xps i7-13700 w/64gb ram, 2tb hdd + 1tb ssd for $1,399.97 or xps i7-14700, 64gb, 2tb ssd for $1,999. Not sure if these links but appreicate any suggestions/recs
https://www.costco.com/dell-xps-tower---13th-gen-intel-core-i7-13700---geforce-rtx-4060ti---windows-11.product.4000224876.html
https://www.costco.com/dell-xps-tower---14th-gen-intel-core-i7-14700---geforce-rtx-4060ti---windows-11.product.4000260298.html
thanks,
Larry
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Larry Goldberg AIA Member Emeritus
larry goldberg architect, aia, ncarb
morganville, nj
Original Message:
Sent: 06-21-2024 06:26 PM
From: Michael J. Schneider AIA
Subject: Computer system reccomendations
I have had success going to Dell and configuring a Precision mobile workstation that meets Autodesk's minimum hardware requirements for the applications. I agree with Mr. Sisson that 32 gb of ram is a better configuration. I usually start with a configuration slightly less than i want and add to it -- it is much easier to add to a preconfigured station than deduct from one. You will find prices ranging from $1400 to multiples of that. I usually end up spending right around $2000 with a permanent license of Acrobat included for a computer I typically keep for 4 years. The AIA member discount at Dell will pay for the sales tax plus a little more. There is always free 2-day shipping if you create an account. The "rewards' on your new account can be used about a month later to purchase a docking station and monitors. Despite the pleasure of having a portable solution, I still go to my desk with two large monitors, scanner, printer, etc. when the day gets more involved.
If you can fit it into your budget, Dell's ProSupport plans can be convenient --- I just had the loud fans on my station replaced in my office in 15 minutes time with next day service. I think that adds about $150 for 3 years. Good luck!
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Michael Schneider AIA
Quadrant Design, Inc.
Waterloo IL
Original Message:
Sent: 06-20-2024 01:06 PM
From: Purnima P. McCutcheon AIA
Subject: Computer system reccomendations
Greetings. I just started my own firm of one, and am in the market for a laptop that can comfortably run AutoCAD, Bluebeam and the usual Word/Excel, etc. I would love feedback from anyone with some recent experience in this. I need reasonable performance. I am realizing an Apple laptop won't work as Bluebeam doesn't work on it.
(I have never posted here before. Hope it is okay to post a message such as this).
Mahalo,Purnima McCutcheon, AIA