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CA means?

  • 1.  CA means?

    Posted 01-04-2024 02:13 PM

    Don't we (Architects) do Construction Administration? Is there a difference, if we call it Contract Administration or Construction Contract Administration?



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    Janene Christopher AIA
    Steinberg Hart
    San Diego CA
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  • 2.  RE: CA means?

    Posted 01-05-2024 06:31 PM

    What are we administering, the Construction or the Construction Contract?

     

    Bob Drake, AIA, CSI CCS CCCA

    Director of Technical Architecture, Buildings

    (o) 646-388-7469 | (c) 646-787-5608

    bob.drake@stvinc.com | stvinc.com

     

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  • 3.  RE: CA means?

    Posted 01-05-2024 08:57 PM

    There is really no difference between the terminology of "Construction Administration" and "Construction Contract Administration" as far as I know.  I do remember learning early that the "Contract Documents" are called such in that they make up the Construction Documents AND the Specifications/Project Manual. And, yes, Architects perform Construction Administration and play a very important role in this regard.



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    Julia Laue, AIA, NCARB, LEED AP
    Principal Architect & Bureau Manager
    Bureau of Architecture, SF Public Works
    San Francisco, CA
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  • 4.  RE: CA means?

    Posted 01-06-2024 05:53 AM

    Excellent, perfectly said, Julia. 



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    William Ray Assoc. AIA
    Wm. J. Ray and Associates
    Albany LA
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  • 5.  RE: CA means?

    Posted 01-06-2024 02:11 PM

    I recommend using the term "contract administration."

    We are retained by the Owner to administer the contract on their behalf. We are not administering the construction; that is the role of the Contractor or Construction Manager. 



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    Philip Kabza AIA
    SpecGuy Specifications Consultants
    Mount Dora FL
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  • 6.  RE: CA means?

    Posted 01-08-2024 11:16 AM

    I can definitely see that.  Thanks Philip!



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    Julia Laue, AIA, NCARB, LEED AP
    Principal Architect & Bureau Manager
    Bureau of Architecture, SF Public Works
    San Francisco, CA
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  • 7.  RE: CA means?

    Posted 01-08-2024 09:24 AM

    CA

    CO

    CE

    3 acronyms used seemingly interchangeably.

    It would be great if we could get just one.



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    Daniel Koster AIA
    Benchmark Group
    Rogers AR
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  • 8.  RE: CA means?

    Posted 01-08-2024 09:27 AM

    CCA per CSI

     

    Bob Drake, AIA, CSI CCS CCCA

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  • 9.  RE: CA means?

    Posted 01-08-2024 11:17 AM

    I always say "TMA" Daniel.  Too Many Acronyms!  :)



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    Julia Laue, AIA, NCARB, LEED AP
    Principal Architect & Bureau Manager
    Bureau of Architecture, SF Public Works
    San Francisco, CA
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  • 10.  RE: CA means?

    Posted 01-08-2024 01:52 PM

    The Terminology is straight out of the AIA A201 part 4.2 and B201 part 6. It is also the name of the B201 "Standard Form of Architect's Services: Design and Construction Contract Administration." 

    The Architect is Administering the "Contract for Construction" between the Owner and the Contractor, on the Owner's behalf. We are not contracted to "Administer Construction." So, while this seems like an acronym or semantics discussion, it is actually a legal language item. Architects provide Construction Contract Administration, per the terms or our (and the Contractor's) Contract Requirements. To the extent that we use other terms on acronyms, that is not the legal responsibility. If you are using non-standard contracts (non-AIA,) language may vary. However, in this case, it is worth reviewing the language, and what obligations you, as an Architect, are responsible and capable of providing with your legal representation. 

    If you are not comfortable with CCA or CA, you can always default to Construction Phase Services, and avoid the "administration" discussion altogether. 



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    Jeffery Reynolds AIA
    HOK
    Washington DC
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  • 11.  RE: CA means?

    Posted 01-11-2024 10:16 AM
    As per the CHOP Canadian Handbook of Practice for architects
    Chapter 6.6 Construction Contract Administration and Field Review:
    Contract Administration: The services provided by an architect during the construction phase of a project. For stipulated construction price contracts, these services are outlined in detail in in one of the Schedules of Architect's Services which accompany the Canadian Standard Form of Contract for Architectural Services – RAIC Document Six.
    Also:

    Office and field functions for the contract administration phase of a building project include work undertaken at the following stages:

    • prior to construction;
    • during construction;
    • at close-out;
    • during the warranty period.
    This chapter was worth reading.
    See below link:
    Regards,

    Navaz Fouladzari

    MArch, Architect OAA, AIBC, AIA, MRAIC, MRIBA



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    Navaz Fouladzari AIA
    DF Architecture Inc.
    Burnaby BC
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