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The Young Architects Forum (YAF), a program of the American Institute of Architects (AIA) and the College of Fellows (COF), is organized to address issues of particular importance to recently licensed architects.

FAQ: What is a young architect and what is an emerging professional? Young architects are architects licensed up to ten years of initial licensure, and the name does not have any relationship to age. Emerging professionals are professionals who have completed their academic studies up to the point of licensure or up to 10 years after completion of their academic studies. Although young architects are now defined as distinct from emerging professionals, many components refer to these groups similarly. For example, a local YAF group may include emerging professionals and a local Emerging Professionals Committee may include young architects.

  • 1.  New York Times 25 Buildings List

    Posted 08-03-2021 01:30 AM
    I think the Times should be very embarrassed.  They have just published something called THE 25 MOST SIGNIFICANT WORKS OF POSTWAR ARCHITECTURE.  Of course any list like this is silly.  And we can always quibble about I.M. Pei or Eero Saarinen's absence or The Kimball.  But to leave out Frank Gehry is inexcusable.  Most significant?  You don't have to like Gehry or his work but you cannot deny that he and it changed the course of architecture.  Really, one hopes someone higher up at the Times issues an apology.  If you want to be the newspaper of record, you do not let historical gaffes like this stand.
    Am I upset?  Yup.  Sheesh!

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    Mike Mense FAIA
    Architect, Writer, Planner, Painter
    mmenseArchitect
    mensenyc on Instagram
    Hamilton Heights, NYCf
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  • 2.  RE: New York Times 25 Buildings List

    Posted 08-04-2021 08:08 PM
    As a newspaper, The New York Times is free to publish any list they so choose, even if they are silly as you point out. Which makes me wonder why you're upset.

    Clearly they didn't just run down to the newsroom and ask a couple of staffers to slap something together. They asked architects, critics, and designers to weigh in and offer an opinion. Which is what this list is. Opinion.

    Does Gehry belong on the list? That can be argued. As an architect, I'd be happy if he wasn't on a list anywhere ever again. But that's my opinion, as again, is this list.

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    Lawrence Paschall AIA
    President/CEO
    Spotted Dog Architecture
    Dallas TX
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  • 3.  RE: New York Times 25 Buildings List

    Posted 08-04-2021 08:43 PM

    Lawrence

    Thank you for taking the trouble to respond.  These discussions should engender disagreements.  That's one of the paths to learning.

    Nonetheless.

     

    With all due respect, I think you missed the point.  At least twice.  Your, or my, opinion is not what is important here.  History is does not depend on those.

    This is not People magazine.  We can and should expect a little more care from the newspaper of record.

    It is exactly the suggestion, that you accepted, that this was a worthy collection of judges/selectors, whatever, that makes this a sad thing to have on the record.

    Better they had published your list.

     

    I think the history of architecture is important.  You are suggesting, on the basis of taste (never in my opinion the appropriate basis of a professional opinion), that Gehry is not central to the history of 20th century architecture.  Would you also banish Antoni Gaudi on the basis of a similar apparent devotion to convention? 

     

    We all have our conventions I guess.  One of mine demands that Frank Gehry, in any number of his works, played a most important role.

    I would also timidly suggest that those who dismiss Gehry tell us which of his buildings they visited and disliked. 

    Personally, I think the museum in Minnesota, to use my word, is silly.  But, like I said, who cares about my opinion?

     

     

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  • 4.  RE: New York Times 25 Buildings List

    Posted 08-05-2021 12:43 PM
    Mike,

    All valid points, and you and I could discuss Frank all day. However, taking our own thoughts (and anyone else's) about Gehry out of the equation, and since this is the Young Architects Forum, I think a better post would have read something like this:

    The New York Times just published a list of The 25 Most Significant Works of Postwar Architecture. While I don't agree with all of the panel's choices - for example, I feel Frank Gehry should have been included if for nothing else than his contribution to melding technology with design - I would encourage the young architects in the forum (and some of the older ones as well) to have a look at the list if possible. (You may not be able to without a subscription.) You may find some architects and architecture unfamiliar to you and may help garner some discussion within your office and among your other architect friends as to what is significant architecture.

    And on that note, I would be interested in seeing what your responses are to the list or to the idea of "significant architecture." Also possibly how your thoughts have changed as you've been more involved in the day to day of architecture.

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    Lawrence Paschall AIA
    President/CEO
    Spotted Dog Architecture
    Dallas TX
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  • 5.  RE: New York Times 25 Buildings List

    Posted 08-04-2021 09:41 PM

    Lawrence,

    One more thing, in case I haven't yet convinced you.  Frank Gehry is the grandfather of BIM.  Still want to leave him out of the list?

    Hope not.

    Mike Mense FAIA

    Hamilton Heights NYC

     

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