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  • 1.  NCARB - On average, it takes 12.5 years to become an architect

    Posted 08-02-2017 05:50 PM
    Latest from NCARB. Although an improvement from 15.6 years back 2008 this is still absolutely ridiculous. 


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    Sally Anne Smith AIA
    Smith Architectural Studio
    Carmel CA
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  • 2.  RE: NCARB - On average, it takes 12.5 years to become an architect

    Posted 08-03-2017 05:43 PM
    Do we know what they are counting as education? I presume only the accredited Arch degree program?  If so, not including my undergrad (B.S. Arch Studies) I am looking at 7 years if I can pass the final half of my exams by the end of next year.

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    Taryn Bone Assoc. AIA
    owner/principal designer
    Bone Collective Studio
    Los Angeles CA
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  • 3.  RE: NCARB - On average, it takes 12.5 years to become an architect

    Posted 08-04-2017 06:41 PM
    The only eduction applied towards licensure is only what the state board considers as an educational equivalent.  in California, it is still 8 years with a B.Arch + work experience.  More if other degree.  That's a good reason to attend an accredited school.  
    Last i checked, California is on of the few or only state that does not require a degree if you have worked under an licensed professional for the minimum number of years.  Furthermore, the supplementary exam is required after passing the ARE is multiple choice now.  This is much less stressful, but less pertinent, then when it was an oral exam last given around 8 years ago.

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  • 4.  RE: NCARB - On average, it takes 12.5 years to become an architect

    Posted 08-03-2017 05:53 PM
    While I do agree the overall time is lengthy, I have real concerns with the trend to "speed up" the process.  It concerns me students are taking the licensing tests right out of school with little to no actual knowledge of what real world architecture and the business of architecture is.  This is a complex and difficult profession.  Rushing people into licensure all in the name of boosting the number of architects is not the solution to best serving the public good.  The college graduates we have hired over the last few years come into our office with little to no actual knowledge of how to design a REAL building or a good understanding of building systems yet they are becoming "licensed" earlier and earlier through a test process that seems to be more and more removed from the real world practice of architecture.  I worry speeding up the process will only exacerbate the problem.

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    Christopher Altman AIA
    Stubbs Muldrow Herin Architects, Inc.
    Mount Pleasant SC
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  • 5.  RE: NCARB - On average, it takes 12.5 years to become an architect

    Posted 08-03-2017 06:00 PM
    Challenging? Yes. Ridiculous? I don't agree.

    This chart shows that the average graduate architect achieves licensure at around 30 years of age, after 6 years of school and six years of internship and practice, with some overlap for exams.

    What would you want to reduce? Education? We need educated professionals whose capabilities will ultimately make them leaders on complex teams and in their communities. Practice prior to licensure? Not many are ready to shoulder the responsibility of professional independence even once they obtain licensure. So why rush?

    Would you want someone sealing the drawings on your building at age 28? 26?

    A well rounded practitioner - one who can speak, write, research, analyze, design, and lead teams as well as simply assemble drawings and take exams, takes this long to get there, and then some. Some take longer due to employment and financial challenges. Some may shave a year off of the timeline. But what we do is so complex and broad, there should not be a terrible rush to get that seal. We all needed some time to "shave on someone else's beard" first. So do today's emerging professionals. The one's I've been working with in our client firms give me a great deal of confidence in the future of our profession.

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    Philip Kabza AIA
    Partner
    SpecGuy Specifications Consultants
    Mount Dora FL
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  • 6.  RE: NCARB - On average, it takes 12.5 years to become an architect

    Posted 08-03-2017 06:22 PM
    I was licensed at age 29. I am 52 now. I can say without a doubt, I did not have enough knowledge to stamp the type of projects that I do now.
    I have no problem with the process taking 12 to 15 years. It should be arduous.

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    W. Hardister AIA
    Woodblock Architecture
    Portland OR
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