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  • 1.  Design Drawings vs. Shop Drawings

    Posted 06-03-2013 03:26 PM
    This message has been cross posted to the following Discussion Forums: Project Delivery and Interior Architecture Committee .
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    As part of our practice, we sometimes manage aspects of other firm's interior design projects.

    The issue has arisen numerous times that the interior design firms fail to actually design a furnishing item, providing instead a general description of size and finish and a catalog cut of another furnishing, more often than not of a completely different type (detail on a piece of hardware to be turned into a mirror frame, for example) or at least completely different proportions. This puts the fabricator in the position of actually having to design the furnishing item, without getting paid for that work, while the designer is being paid for it and not doing it.

    I have been looking for some language that clearly defines what information is required for a detail drawing of this type. There is plenty available concerning what shop drawings aren't, but not a lot that I could find clarifying what design drawings are.

    Anybody know where I can quickly get ahold of such language?

    Thanks!

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    Kate Svoboda-Spanbock AIA, CID
    Principal
    HERE Design and Architecture
    Los Angeles CA
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  • 2.  RE: Design Drawings vs. Shop Drawings

    Posted 06-03-2013 08:26 PM
    A very good point to raise. There really shouldn't be any excuse for half developed design work especially if there is a requirement by the designer for a specific result. We find that there is a wider grey area in the built environment where detailed design packages are released to a technical architect of record for further development. The design architect is charged with the production of generic design drawings and the technical architect with the delivery of these to either tender or construction phase. Taking the standpoint of the design architect in this case we find typically that the technical architect refuses to apply any thought to the unseen elements of our drawings even though we have delivered our intent well beyond the point of our contractual obligations. At whatever scale we are working its often the case that these indifferences arise when two parties are appointed by an employer to deliver different stages of the process. The grey areas could do with some clarification for sure. Regards Sent from my iPhone On 4 Jun, 2013, at 3:25 AM, Kate Svoboda-Spanbock wrote: > > This message has been cross posted to the following Discussion Forums: Project Delivery and Interior Architecture Committee . > ------------------------------------------- > As part of our practice, we sometimes manage aspects of other firm's interior design projects. > > The issue has arisen numerous times that the interior design firms fail to actually design a furnishing item, providing instead a general description of size and finish and a catalog cut of another furnishing, more often than not of a completely different type (detail on a piece of hardware to be turned into a mirror frame, for example) or at least completely different proportions. This puts the fabricator in the position of actually having to design the furnishing item, without getting paid for that work, while the designer is being paid for it and not doing it. > > I have been looking for some language that clearly defines what information is required for a detail drawing of this type. There is plenty available concerning what shop drawings aren't, but not a lot that I could find clarifying what design drawings are. > > Anybody know where I can quickly get ahold of such language? > > Thanks! > > ------------------------------------------- > Kate Svoboda-Spanbock AIA, CID > Principal > HERE Design and Architecture > Los Angeles CA > ------------------------------------------- > >


  • 3.  RE:Design Drawings vs. Shop Drawings

    Posted 06-05-2013 06:30 PM


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    Avanes Haritunians AIA
    Architect
    Encino CA
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    a fabricator is not in a position to include a language for design architect, rahter they should send an RFI to ask for more detailed drawings.


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