Committee of Corporate Architects and Facility Management

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Working in schematics to consider if ICF is feasible for a 55,000 sf, Higher-Ed Facility in South Ga. We feel as though we have exhausted our google search techniques. Looking for data or white papers that help sell the argument to the client. Initial cost analysis indicates there is a premium using this product; however, what are the savings? Any info or experience in these types of facilities with this type of construction is appreciated.

Also, any info on right-sizing the HVAC System (Chiller/Boiler) for this size facility using ICFs would also be appreciated. Looking to help educate/steer mechanical consultant.

Overall, there seems to be very little online and within product data for commercial buildings...lots on residential and even more with vendor specific info. The premium content would include third-party studies to determine feasibility in initial and ROI costs and energy savings.

If you have experience, we would like to continue the conversation!

thanks,
 Matt

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Matthew Hart Assoc. AIA
Intern
IPG, Incorporated
Valdosta GA
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While doing retail, we did a cost-benefit analysis for the client.  The thing that made the ICF argument work (aside from energy savings and lifetime cost analysis) was the time savings during construction.  Since this was retail, time was money, and getting the building in the dry so interior crews could do their jobs made ICF's work with the client's Pro Forma.  Then 2008 happened and nothing was built, ICF or otherwise.

As far as the mechanical consultant goes... he should be using a sophisticated enough energy model to account for ICFs.  If he's not, look to a more advanced MEP.  You might also try the AIA's Energy Modeling Guide (http://www.aia.org/practicing/AIAB097932) for some guidance or other resources.  

My $0.02

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Brian McLaren AIA
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Original Message:
Sent: 07-22-2013 23:13
From: Matthew Hart
Subject: ICFs

This message has been cross posted to the following Discussion Forums: Committee of Corporate Architects and Facility Management and Committee on Architecture for Education .
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Working in schematics to consider if ICF is feasible for a 55,000 sf, Higher-Ed Facility in South Ga. We feel as though we have exhausted our google search techniques. Looking for data or white papers that help sell the argument to the client. Initial cost analysis indicates there is a premium using this product; however, what are the savings? Any info or experience in these types of facilities with this type of construction is appreciated.

Also, any info on right-sizing the HVAC System (Chiller/Boiler) for this size facility using ICFs would also be appreciated. Looking to help educate/steer mechanical consultant.

Overall, there seems to be very little online and within product data for commercial buildings...lots on residential and even more with vendor specific info. The premium content would include third-party studies to determine feasibility in initial and ROI costs and energy savings.

If you have experience, we would like to continue the conversation!

thanks,
 Matt

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Matthew Hart Assoc. AIA
Intern
IPG, Incorporated
Valdosta GA
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