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Eagle Scout

  • 1.  Eagle Scout

    Posted 12-13-2018 22:23
    I agree with Judson... I would have never become a Fellow had it not been for the lessons learned through the Eagle and God and Country Programs! I am most concerned that the Boy Scouts are considering Chapter 11 protection!
    Ben Rook, FAIA
    Greenville, S.C.


  • 2.  RE: Eagle Scout

    Posted 12-15-2018 00:25
    Give me a break! The Scouts, well beyond prime time.
    Richard Sundberg 






  • 3.  RE: Eagle Scout

    Posted 12-18-2018 10:08
    I'm not sure what you mean by "well beyond prime time".

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    Paul Ostergaard FAIA

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  • 4.  RE: Eagle Scout

    Posted 04-15-2019 17:50
    I am an Eagle Scout, and proud of it.  But the Boy Scouts are basically no more.  They lost their moral compass about 10 years ago.  I am saddened to see such a once great organization fall from grace.

    Steve Ellinger, FAIA

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    Steven Ellinger FAIA
    Partner
    Cadco Architects-Engineers, Inc.
    Abilene TX
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  • 5.  RE: Eagle Scout

    Posted 04-17-2019 10:01
    Steve, can you clarify why you say the Boy Scouts lost their moral compass?

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    Dawn Zuber FAIA
    Owner
    Studio Z Architecture
    Plymouth MI
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  • 6.  RE: Eagle Scout

    Posted 04-17-2019 16:23
    Edited by Steven Ellinger 04-18-2019 09:11
    Dawn
    As I mentioned I am an Eagle Scout and long time supporter of BSA, even serving on the local council Board of Directors for many years.  Earlier this year, it was reported that the Boy Scouts of America was no longer.  It is now just called the "Scouts", with boys and girls eligible for membership.  In addition, the former BSA also has changed other criteria as to who may join.  The cover up (by the national organization) of sexual abuse by some local leaders (according to the news reports) was unforgivable.  I also know first hand about some cheating by a local council that has occurred during a substantial fundraising event, a clear departure from the 12 points of the scout law.  Those are some of the reasons that I no longer volunteer my time to the local council.

    The tradition of taking BOYS camping, hunting, shooting, fishing, back backing, hiking, (all good wholesome activities) and how to do those things along with leadership training got lost.  The traditional American values that made the former BSA great somehow, in today's society was discarded.  For those reasons, the organization that I once held in high regard has disappeared.  I find that very unfortunate.  There are new organizations that have attempted to take the place of the BSA and restore values such Trail Life USA.  Time will tell if those are successful, but we should be hopeful they are.  I will admit that at 61 years of age, I may be less willing to lower my ethics to adapt to current societal trends, but I do know that what used to work for and be good for the boys, should still work.  We should all encourage ethics and morals to our young boys, and girls in their respective organizations.  We as architects should always set an example of these morals and ethics.

    That was the basis for my comment.  I appreciate your asking.

    Steve Ellinger, FAIA

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    Steven Ellinger FAIA
    Partner
    Cadco Architects-Engineers, Inc.
    Abilene TX
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  • 7.  RE: Eagle Scout

    Posted 04-21-2019 11:09
    Like any other institutions (AIA included), there are two organizations: the national organization focused on policy and operations and the local grassroots organizations made up of members and components. It is there that the rubber hits the road and that the values, ethics and actions are clearly defined and implemented. In this regard, I focus on the role I have in shaping and mentoring young people in helping them establish their own moral compass.  In doing so, I have two levels of involvement:

    • serving on the local Eagle Scout committee to recognize and honor those young people who have chosen this path and are determined to complete their journey on it (I achieved the Eagle Award in 1965 at the age of 15 when it was presented to me by Astronaut John Glenn) and reinforce their ongoing commitment to the values it represents; and
    • serving as a Post leader for the Lake Erie Scout Council's Architect Explorer's program (I am also the architecture merit badge counselor) providing an experience in architecture for young men and women who are interested in pursuing careers in the profession.
    It is through these endeavors we position the moral compass for the organization and provide the value of its intended mission. We cannot just cast doubt we need to be the "change we wish to see".  By the way, in 2016, I conducted a survey of members of the College of Fellows and found that nearly 70% of AIA Fellows responding  who were in either the Boy Scouts, Girl Scouts or Sea Scouts had achieved either the Eagle Award, Gold Award or Quartermaster Award respectively.

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    Judson Kline, FAIA
    President
    CIVITAD Services, LLC
    Cleveland, Ohio
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