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The Richard Meier case

  • 1.  The Richard Meier case

    Posted 10-22-2018 08:13
    I regret that I have taken my eye off the road and have not over the last few months followed the Richard Meier case and in particular what measures, if any, the College of Fellows has taken to censure his behavior. I am prompted to bring this up by reading Stella Lee's article in the New York Times lamenting the tepid response of the profession to these egregious acts.  https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/12/opinion/richard-meier-metoo-moment.html?module=inline
    As many of the letters in response to the article testify, this case goes well beyond Meier himself, sexually aggressive and abusive behavior appearing to be a pervasive trait in many of our professional leaders.
    I would appreciate someone bringing me up to date on this - and not letting the matter fade into oblivion (as I unfortunately allowed myself to do over the summer).
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  • 2.  RE: The Richard Meier case

    Posted 10-23-2018 18:53
    ​I think it is worthwhile for the AIA to address each individual who have been accused of such behavior and to let them know how unacceptable it is. The outdated concept of the 'star architect' is one that helps to permeate this exact behavior and as such it is time for us to focus our attention on all aspects of our work. Both the technologist and manager as well as the designer all need equal emphasis and should all be accorded equal recognition, promotion and reward. By diluting the power of the 'star architect' in our profession and a change of focus to all aspects of our work can we disempower architects who use their fame to behave badly.

    It's time for all of us to recast the roles of our profession.

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    David Swartz FAIA
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  • 3.  RE: The Richard Meier case

    Posted 10-23-2018 19:13
    Hubert,
    See the attached link:  Richard Meier steps down following sexual harassment allegations
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    Richard Meier steps down following sexual harassment allegations
    Pritzker Prize-winning architect Richard Meier is leaving his eponymous firm to be spearheaded by new management, following the accusations of sexual harassment made against him earlier this year. Richard Meier & Partners Architects announced today, 9 October 2018, that the founder is taking a permanent "step back" from the firm, seven months after the New York Times published allegations against him from five women.
    View this on Dezeen >

    The NYT reported this a couple of weeks ago

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    Edmond Gauvreau, FAIA
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  • 4.  RE: The Richard Meier case

    Posted 8 days ago

    In an attempt to keep a discussion on sexism and abuse going, I published an article last weekend on Common Edge. All thoughts welcome.

    The Shitty Architect: A #MeToo Short Story

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    The Shitty Architect: A #MeToo Short Story
    The time we saw Evan hitting on Ada, he was a floundering designer and she an almost-architect. Some of us in the studio thought he'd fallen in lust. Most predicted she'd fall out of favor. What we didn't know was how oddly their fling would end, or how quickly things would collapse.
    View this on Common Edge >





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    Richard Buday FAIA
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  • 5.  RE: The Richard Meier case

    Posted 4 days ago
    Richard,
    Great story - maybe a few more endings like that will wake up more practitioners!

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    Edmond Gauvreau, FAIA
    Washington, DC
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  • 6.  RE: The Richard Meier case

    Posted 3 days ago

    There is no place in any professional or personal group to accept "sexually aggressive and abusive behavior" Yet, I regret that colleagues are asking for rescinding professional awards to architects that may have displayed such behavior.  The awards are for their work, not their behavior. If this should be a yard stick, lets banish all work from Leonardo da Vinci and Michelangelo.

     

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  • 7.  RE: The Richard Meier case

    Posted 3 days ago
    Edited by Richard Buday 3 days ago

    You bring up an issue insufficiently discussed in this debate: How to evaluate or re-evaluate works by alleged offenders. Daniela Solarie, daughter of Paolo Soleri, had an interesting quote about her being sexually molested by her father. I'm not sure everyone can, or should, compartmentalize, though.

    "...unless a work is an extension or expression of an individual's antisocial behaviors, or enriches and affirms those, I need to assess that work separately from its maker."

    Sexual abuse: It's you, him, and his work

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    Sexual abuse: It's you, him, and his work
    Condemnation of sexual harassment and abuse is having a moment, and that's reason to cheer. But let's not kid ourselves, the very...
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    https://link.medium.com/Iqg49HCPhT



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    Richard Buday FAIA
    Archimage, Inc.
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  • 8.  RE: The Richard Meier case

    Posted 3 days ago
    Umberto,
    From one perspective, rescinding awards is an extreme measure because they are given for architectural achievement.  I agree that if that AIA rescinded awards because of reprehensible behavior, a number of AIA Gold Medal recipients would have their names removed from the wall at AIA National.
    On the other hand, those same employees who were harassed probably had roles in producing the projects that enabled the name partner to  gain those honors.  Think about how those employees feel about being used.
    We are open to other options, both short term and long term.

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    Edmond Gauvreau, FAIA
    Washington, DC
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  • 9.  RE: The Richard Meier case

    Posted 3 days ago
    I just read Daniela Soleri's article on her father.....a story that can be repeated with many others in other fields.  One should separate the work from the person to a degree, but they still need to be answerable for their behavior and not just chalk it up to being a great artist.

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    Edmond Gauvreau, FAIA
    Washington, DC
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  • 10.  RE: The Richard Meier case

    Posted 2 days ago

    So is it OK for Harvey Weinstein to win awards for his movies even though? 

     

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  • 11.  RE: The Richard Meier case

    Posted 2 days ago

    Yes. It is also important whether all these people have been convicted of a crime or just accused of it. The "Weinstein case' may be a particular instance of a floundering criminal case.

     






  • 12.  RE: The Richard Meier case

    Posted 2 days ago
    This is the Harry Lime line of argument: "You know what the fellow said – in Italy, for thirty years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love, they had five hundred years of democracy and peace – and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock."
    Graham Greene is way too subtle to deliver the homily of a comprehensive morality that conflates the quality of the creation with the integrity of the creator without inflection but let us agree that it is a matter worthy of more consideration than your remark suggests. Philip Johnson's observation that the Nazis had great graphics is true on one level but hideously ignorant on another. How and where does one draw a distinction between personal behavior, social morality and aesthetics in the pubic realm?

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    Hubert Murray FAIA
    Cambridge MA
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  • 13.  RE: The Richard Meier case

    Posted 2 days ago
    Umberto has a good point.


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  • 14.  RE: The Richard Meier case

    Posted 2 days ago
    Given the discussion to date, this demonstrates that this issue is a difficult one to address, especially for past injustices.  Rescinding past design awards - not the best option.  Disqualifying from subsequent award juries - an option but requires consideration of a presumption of "innocent until proven guilty".  Rescinding or revoking Fellowship - an issue for the COF to take up in its board and regional council meetings.

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    Edmond Gauvreau, FAIA
    Washington, DC
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  • 15.  RE: The Richard Meier case

    Posted 3 hours ago
    I have to admit that I haven’t been following the discussion on Richard Meier, but I’ve got the impression that it’s been rather extensive. So I don’t know what other skeletons in the Fellowship closet have been disclosed. But I can think of at least one honor that deserves recognition with a sense of shame. And the honor in question is well above fellowship. It’s the a Gold Medal, the one awarded to Phillip Johnson. Johnson’s sympathies for the Nazis at the outset of World War II were long known and are now the subject of further explication. True, he made recompense for his earlier indiscretion. All of which brings up the question as to how far we as colleagues attempting to maintain the highest standards of professional conduct can go. Back to Richard Meier, nothing we can further do either lessens or augments the disgrace he’s experienced. We’ve amply expressed ourselves on this matter. Let’s hope we can keep our standards high, as architects no less or more than responsible citizens. Paul Spreiregen FAIA

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  • 16.  RE: The Richard Meier case

    Posted 3 days ago
    It's important to keep the thread going. And think that only others have to change to improve our practice. 





  • 17.  RE: The Richard Meier case

    Posted 8 hours ago
    I am in the camp of separating out these issues.

    An award or medal is given based on the judgment of a particular jury at a particular time. Unless we feel that this jury erred in their judgment, or made the decision based on erroneous or incomplete information, we are not in a position to change that decision.

    We can react to any trespass that we ourselves discover through a separate action, such as censure.

    But I do not think it appropriate in this case for us to rescind a carefully made long-ago decision.


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    Thang Do FAIA
    AEDIS Architects
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