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April 19, 2013
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1. RE:Profession Advancement
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Sean Catherall, AIA
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April 18, 2013
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2. Profession Advancement
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Michael Wilkinson, AIA
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April 16, 2013
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3. What has AIA done for me lately ...
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David Collins, FAIA
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4. RE:What AIA is doing to advance the profession
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Lawrence Dinoff, AIA
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April 15, 2013
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5. RE:What AIA is doing to advance the profession
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Sean Catherall, AIA
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6. RE:What AIA is doing to advance the profession
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Dennis Hall, FAIA
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7. RE:What AIA is doing to advance the profession
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Mr. Doug Brinley
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April 12, 2013
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8. RE:What AIA is doing to advance the profession
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Walter Hainsfurther, FAIA
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April 11, 2013
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9. RE:The AIA's role in promoting the profession
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Sean Catherall, AIA
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10. What AIA is doing to advance the profession
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Bernard Lanza, AIA
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Michael, In response to a couple of your points: 2. I see no reason why we can't pursue BOTH communicating our value AND legislation. They're not mutually exclusive. 3. In my experience of speaking to clients and potential clients, I have never heard one say that they fear a mediocre design outcome with a licensed architect. Not a single one said they can get better design from a non-licensed designer or a contractor. I have heard many of them say they fear that an architect will take control of the project away from the owner, turning it in a cost, aesthetic, scope or sustainability direction that the owner does not want. I have heard almost all of them say they don't want to spend the money on architectural design, regardless of value. ------------------------------------------- Sean Catherall AIA Herriman UT -------------------------------------------
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Sent: 04-18-2013 09:35
From: Michael Wilkinson
Subject: Profession Advancement
Mr. Lanza:
Your comments sum up what's wrong with the profession , and why we've lost credibility.
1. If an architect has "lost aptitudes to exercise design capabilities", they should lose their license, period. They do the profession no favors.
2. The profession needs to assert its collective cultural value, not through legislation, but by inspiring enough people to realize the potential of well-designed space and high-quality, high- performing, buildings.
3. Architects who continue uninspiring practice through propagating mediocrity will simply accelerate the vaporization of the profession.
The new mantra of AIA National suggests individual and local responsibility. Seems like we should take them up on that, as National isn't doing much at the moment to improve the cultural status of our profession.
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Michael Wilkinson AIA
Solomon Cordwell Buenz
Chicago IL
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Mr. Lanza:
Your comments sum up what's wrong with the profession , and why we've lost credibility.
1. If an architect has "lost aptitudes to exercise design capabilities", they should lose their license, period. They do the profession no favors.
2. The profession needs to assert its collective cultural value, not through legislation, but by inspiring enough people to realize the potential of well-designed space and high-quality, high- performing, buildings.
3. Architects who continue uninspiring practice through propagating mediocrity will simply accelerate the vaporization of the profession.
The new mantra of AIA National suggests individual and local responsibility. Seems like we should take them up on that, as National isn't doing much at the moment to improve the cultural status of our profession.
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Michael Wilkinson AIA
Solomon Cordwell Buenz
Chicago IL
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All I can say is AIA is us .... if we are unhappy with the AIA, then it is our fault. The AIA is simply a common name under which we all operate cooperatively as professionals dedicated to an ideal. Forming, fostering and implementing that ideal is our responsibility!
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David Collins FAIA
President
Preview Group, Inc.
Cincinnati OH
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isn't this group about technical design for building performance? there must be a more appropriate place for this discussion. ------------------------------------------- Lawrence Dinoff AIA, NCARB Architect Robson Forensic Inc. Lancaster PA -------------------------------------------
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Sent: 04-12-2013 17:38
From: Walter Hainsfurther
Subject: What AIA is doing to advance the profession
Mr. Lanza:
I'm just curious...how is what you describe within AIA's sphere of influence? For too long, architects (not the AIA as an organization) have chosen to avoid risk as opposed to manage it. That choice, like all, has consequences. In this case, it means it opens the door to others willing to take on that risk.
I would argue that the AIA has tried to teach architects how they can control some of this "shrinkage." However, it is up to us as architects to determine what to do. Since the AIA is us, it is up to us to insure that the AIA is providing the tools and knowledge that allow us to make informed decisions. I actually think they are doing that. Perhaps we're not listening.
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Walter Hainsfurther FAIA
Kurtz Associates Architects
Des Plaines IL
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Sent: 04-11-2013 09:32
From: Bernard Lanza
Subject: What AIA is doing to advance the profession
I am equally disappointed in AIA's efforts to advance the profession. While I share in some expressed thoughts regarding the enactment of legislation that would require our services, I have watched the profession sell itself out over my 34-year career. So many Architects have become little more than brokers. What engineers, interior designers, contractors, and other so-called designers don't pick from our tree, our profession gladly serves to them. Moreover, the phenomenon has resulted in a downward spiral for our profession. Because so many Architects do not exercise the design capabilities that they were educated, trained, and licensed to perform, they have lost those aptitudes and are no longer capable of reverting back to the well-rounded design professionals that Architects used to be, and should be. If the profession wants social respect (and all those wonderful things that go along with it), it must earn it. It's time for the profession to reflect and the AIA should herald the effort. Failure to accomplish this important task will result in the vaporization of the profession that many of you are getting glimpses of on the horizon.
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Bernard Lanza AIA, NCARB, LEED AP
Firm Owner/Architect
Battoglia Lanza Architectural Group PC
Fishkill NY
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While I mostly agree that the AIA (national) bears little blame for the shrinkage of the profession, it should be noted that those who have succeeded in expanding the market have gotten no help from AIA's contract documents in the process. The documents take a very narrow approach to our services and our responsibility, which is not appreciated by people who would prefer to partner with us. ------------------------------------------- Sean Catherall AIA Herriman UT -------------------------------------------
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Sent: 04-12-2013 17:38
From: Walter Hainsfurther
Subject: What AIA is doing to advance the profession
Mr. Lanza:
I'm just curious...how is what you describe within AIA's sphere of influence? For too long, architects (not the AIA as an organization) have chosen to avoid risk as opposed to manage it. That choice, like all, has consequences. In this case, it means it opens the door to others willing to take on that risk.
I would argue that the AIA has tried to teach architects how they can control some of this "shrinkage." However, it is up to us as architects to determine what to do. Since the AIA is us, it is up to us to insure that the AIA is providing the tools and knowledge that allow us to make informed decisions. I actually think they are doing that. Perhaps we're not listening.
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Walter Hainsfurther FAIA
Kurtz Associates Architects
Des Plaines IL
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Many years ago as an undergrad student, I took a course taught by Henry Kamphoefner, FAIA, the renown former Dean of the School of Design at NC State. Once of the students asked Mr. Kamphoefner about the AIA and he thought for a few moments and then responded. "The AIA has a lot of problems, but it is all we've got as a profession." Whenever I think about all the issues I and others may have with the AIA and things all I wish were different about the profession, I think of Henry's words to the group of students nearly 40 years ago, and say to myself, "he was right." We can chose to be a part of the problem or a part of the solution to what ails us. I know what my old professor would tell me to do. ------------------------------------------- Dennis J. Hall, FAIA, FCSI Chairman ' CEO Hall Architects, Inc. Charlotte NC -------------------------------------------
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Sent: 04-12-2013 17:38
From: Walter Hainsfurther
Subject: What AIA is doing to advance the profession
Mr. Lanza:
I'm just curious...how is what you describe within AIA's sphere of influence? For too long, architects (not the AIA as an organization) have chosen to avoid risk as opposed to manage it. That choice, like all, has consequences. In this case, it means it opens the door to others willing to take on that risk.
I would argue that the AIA has tried to teach architects how they can control some of this "shrinkage." However, it is up to us as architects to determine what to do. Since the AIA is us, it is up to us to insure that the AIA is providing the tools and knowledge that allow us to make informed decisions. I actually think they are doing that. Perhaps we're not listening.
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Walter Hainsfurther FAIA
Kurtz Associates Architects
Des Plaines IL
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Sent: 04-11-2013 09:32
From: Bernard Lanza
Subject: What AIA is doing to advance the profession
I am equally disappointed in AIA's efforts to advance the profession. While I share in some expressed thoughts regarding the enactment of legislation that would require our services, I have watched the profession sell itself out over my 34-year career. So many Architects have become little more than brokers. What engineers, interior designers, contractors, and other so-called designers don't pick from our tree, our profession gladly serves to them. Moreover, the phenomenon has resulted in a downward spiral for our profession. Because so many Architects do not exercise the design capabilities that they were educated, trained, and licensed to perform, they have lost those aptitudes and are no longer capable of reverting back to the well-rounded design professionals that Architects used to be, and should be. If the profession wants social respect (and all those wonderful things that go along with it), it must earn it. It's time for the profession to reflect and the AIA should herald the effort. Failure to accomplish this important task will result in the vaporization of the profession that many of you are getting glimpses of on the horizon.
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Bernard Lanza AIA, NCARB, LEED AP
Firm Owner/Architect
Battoglia Lanza Architectural Group PC
Fishkill NY
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I agree with Walter. AIA is 'us.' I've been a practicing licensed Architect for over 20 years. Most of my career I've actually been a professional manager, more than an Architect. And I expect that's true for many of us - our value comes from management of project outcomes, not value in architecture. From my perspective, the economic collapse with the arrival of 3D/4D/5D technologies is a process that will alter the business in a no-going-back way. I've responded to my own interests and needs by creating my own technology enterprise for the appropriate implementation of one small but important aspect of the 'new' business. But not everyone is going to have the special combination of resources and capability and commitment, and support to do it. It's incredibly challenging to make a huge move, and doubly so when there is so much disruption. The costs for creating a technology-driven organization are both huge, and as cheap as ever - depending on how a person looks at it. The fact is we can do more with one person today, better, faster, than with 5 people last year. The question remains - is it 'smarter?' I bet, yes, because our organizations can be grown in such a way to be mutually supportive. I'm amazed organizations are able to stay in business operating under totally outmoded thinking. Architects by their nature must take on leadership responsibilities. But Architects (and AIA) has insisted on being the arbiter of design - which is a teeny tiny part of architecture! You can fit design on the head of a pin - in a world with 7 billion people, there are a finite number of great design ideas we really need - and a whole bunch of risk (climate risk anyone...) that must be dealt with. Architects need to step up their risk-taking and learn to accept project risk. It annoys me to no end that we get all flustered over E&O insurance and whose risk it is, while making LEED an 'additional service.' The first thing is to find the professionals who are supportive to make that happen. Learn to challenge law and find the attorneys and clients that are in it for the long haul. AIA could actually be where we come together to change legal precedent to reflect what we need, rather than take direction from it - for example. People like me, building technology organizations, will create the change opportunities in practice areas. It seems like the way this will play out is that some projects will be completed with outstanding performance, and eventually those success stories will compel other owners to insist their Architects take on more risk. ------------------------------------------- Doug Brinley Owner & Manager Glapin Milphrey, LLC Seattle WA -------------------------------------------
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Sent: 04-12-2013 17:38
From: Walter Hainsfurther
Subject: What AIA is doing to advance the profession
Mr. Lanza:
I'm just curious...how is what you describe within AIA's sphere of influence? For too long, architects (not the AIA as an organization) have chosen to avoid risk as opposed to manage it. That choice, like all, has consequences. In this case, it means it opens the door to others willing to take on that risk.
I would argue that the AIA has tried to teach architects how they can control some of this "shrinkage." However, it is up to us as architects to determine what to do. Since the AIA is us, it is up to us to insure that the AIA is providing the tools and knowledge that allow us to make informed decisions. I actually think they are doing that. Perhaps we're not listening.
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Walter Hainsfurther FAIA
Kurtz Associates Architects
Des Plaines IL
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Original Message:
Sent: 04-11-2013 09:32
From: Bernard Lanza
Subject: What AIA is doing to advance the profession
I am equally disappointed in AIA's efforts to advance the profession. While I share in some expressed thoughts regarding the enactment of legislation that would require our services, I have watched the profession sell itself out over my 34-year career. So many Architects have become little more than brokers. What engineers, interior designers, contractors, and other so-called designers don't pick from our tree, our profession gladly serves to them. Moreover, the phenomenon has resulted in a downward spiral for our profession. Because so many Architects do not exercise the design capabilities that they were educated, trained, and licensed to perform, they have lost those aptitudes and are no longer capable of reverting back to the well-rounded design professionals that Architects used to be, and should be. If the profession wants social respect (and all those wonderful things that go along with it), it must earn it. It's time for the profession to reflect and the AIA should herald the effort. Failure to accomplish this important task will result in the vaporization of the profession that many of you are getting glimpses of on the horizon.
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Bernard Lanza AIA, NCARB, LEED AP
Firm Owner/Architect
Battoglia Lanza Architectural Group PC
Fishkill NY
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Mr. Lanza: I'm just curious...how is what you describe within AIA's sphere of influence? For too long, architects (not the AIA as an organization) have chosen to avoid risk as opposed to manage it. That choice, like all, has consequences. In this case, it means it opens the door to others willing to take on that risk. I would argue that the AIA has tried to teach architects how they can control some of this "shrinkage." However, it is up to us as architects to determine what to do. Since the AIA is us, it is up to us to insure that the AIA is providing the tools and knowledge that allow us to make informed decisions. I actually think they are doing that. Perhaps we're not listening. ------------------------------------------- Walter Hainsfurther FAIA Kurtz Associates Architects Des Plaines IL -------------------------------------------
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Original Message:
Sent: 04-11-2013 09:32
From: Bernard Lanza
Subject: What AIA is doing to advance the profession
I am equally disappointed in AIA's efforts to advance the profession. While I share in some expressed thoughts regarding the enactment of legislation that would require our services, I have watched the profession sell itself out over my 34-year career. So many Architects have become little more than brokers. What engineers, interior designers, contractors, and other so-called designers don't pick from our tree, our profession gladly serves to them. Moreover, the phenomenon has resulted in a downward spiral for our profession. Because so many Architects do not exercise the design capabilities that they were educated, trained, and licensed to perform, they have lost those aptitudes and are no longer capable of reverting back to the well-rounded design professionals that Architects used to be, and should be. If the profession wants social respect (and all those wonderful things that go along with it), it must earn it. It's time for the profession to reflect and the AIA should herald the effort. Failure to accomplish this important task will result in the vaporization of the profession that many of you are getting glimpses of on the horizon.
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Bernard Lanza AIA, NCARB, LEED AP
Firm Owner/Architect
Battoglia Lanza Architectural Group PC
Fishkill NY
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While my position on this subject has been that cultural changes should precede legislative ones (see prohibition, abortion, etc.), you bring up an interesting thought: if builders and owners are ready for post-disaster building code changes, perhaps they are ready for simultaneous administrative changes--changes to protect the public by requiring an architect's design. ------------------------------------------- Sean Catherall AIA Herriman UT -------------------------------------------
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Sent: 04-10-2013 19:44
From: Palmer Hafdahl
Subject: The AIA's role in promoting the profession
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Palmer Hafdahl AIA
Owner/Architect
Palm's Hawaii Architecture
Lihue HI
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Darned if you do, darned if you don't.
We have "benefited" from Hawaii State Law that mandates architects supervision of documents and observation of construction, which has a tendency to raise the level of building and reduce the perception of Architect as a necessary expense to be overcome, and/or service that is more commodity. We continue to prove otherwise. :)
aloha,
pH
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I am equally disappointed in AIA's efforts to advance the profession. While I share in some expressed thoughts regarding the enactment of legislation that would require our services, I have watched the profession sell itself out over my 34-year career. So many Architects have become little more than brokers. What engineers, interior designers, contractors, and other so-called designers don't pick from our tree, our profession gladly serves to them. Moreover, the phenomenon has resulted in a downward spiral for our profession. Because so many Architects do not exercise the design capabilities that they were educated, trained, and licensed to perform, they have lost those aptitudes and are no longer capable of reverting back to the well-rounded design professionals that Architects used to be, and should be. If the profession wants social respect (and all those wonderful things that go along with it), it must earn it. It's time for the profession to reflect and the AIA should herald the effort. Failure to accomplish this important task will result in the vaporization of the profession that many of you are getting glimpses of on the horizon.
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Bernard Lanza AIA, NCARB, LEED AP
Firm Owner/Architect
Battoglia Lanza Architectural Group PC
Fishkill NY
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