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May 08, 2012 1:09 PMKathleen Simpson
 

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Environmentally Responsible Design Approaches
From: Steven Cox, AIA
To: Committee on Design
Posted: April 23, 2012 12:09 PM
Subject: Environmentally Responsible Design Approaches
Message:
This message has been cross posted to the following Discussion Forums: Project Delivery and Committee on Design .
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Under the AIA B101-2007, in the Schematic Design Phase Services section (para. 3.2.3), the architect is contractually obligated to "...discuss with the Owner alternative approaches to design and construction of the Project, including the feasibility of incorporating environmentally responsible design approaches."

Paragraph 3.2.5.1 does go further in the description: "The Architect shall consider environmentally responsible design alternatives, such as material choices and building orientation, together with other considerations based on program and aesthetics, in developing a design that is consistent with the Owner's program, schedule and budget for the Cost of the Work."

Does this language imply that:
  1. Under our normal standard design services, we architects are creating environmentally irresponsible designs?
  2. Building orientation and material choices are normally selected at random, unless you opt for the environmentally responsible design alternatives?

My next questions would be;

  1. How does the AIA define "environmentally responsible design" as separate and above standard good practice?
  2. What additional fees are justified with these "alternative approaches"?

I think this muddy language is all precursor to "sustainable" design issues being considered for future AIA contracts.

Steven Cox AIA
President
Cox Architecture
Mccomb MS
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RE:Environmentally Responsible Design Approaches
From: George Jennings, AIA
To: Committee on Design
Posted: April 24, 2012 11:28 AM
Subject: RE:Environmentally Responsible Design Approaches
Message:
This is an interesting observation that also goes into the quality of the training of an architect, and it begs the question as to why should we need LEED etc. at all!

Environmentally responsible design is a very basic tenet of what we are taught as architects, be it from formal training or just good sense. To create a new "industry standard" out of something that should be a principal in how we practice, no matter how simple or arduous it is to be responsible that way, is something that should not gain too much time in discussion.

I'm LEED AP, but I think I am going to let it drop. The one thing I find useful that LEED has done is knocked the industry out of practicing and accepting status-quo product/systems development and it has generated innovative thinking again. It's our fault we let that status-quo become so comfortable.

It is nice to see some innovation, but that should not be an increase in our fees because we contract to practice that way. The increase in fees is in reporting the innovative thinking, performance, and getting a plaque. But what does that get us other than the plaque.

When there is a greater central, researchable, well documented database that reports all of what the "green and sustainable" process in projects has or has not accomplished as the result of certain innovative thinking, then we will have something valuable.         

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George Jennings AIA
G Booker 3
Tappahannock VA
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RE:Environmentally Responsible Design Approaches
From: Eric Wessels, AIA
To: Committee on Design
Posted: April 25, 2012 8:35 AM
Subject: RE:Environmentally Responsible Design Approaches
Message:
It appears to me this language is intended more to inform the client that the architect will be practicing in a manner that is environmentally responsible.  Hopefully it is less about obligating the architect to practice this way.

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Eric Wessels AIA
PencilWERKS
Dallas Center IA
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RE:Environmentally Responsible Design Approaches
From: Steven Gottesman, AIA
To: Committee on Design
Posted: April 25, 2012 2:35 PM
Subject: RE:Environmentally Responsible Design Approaches
Message:
I agree with the statements that architects should be designing sustainably or "Green" as an integral part of our practice.  The only thing that should be passed on to the Client as an extra is preparing all the documentation that LEED certification requires.

As to sustainable design, all we need to look at for precedence is any building constructed in american southwest areas such as in FL, CA or AZ during the forties or fifties to see how integrated solar shading and recessed window placement for example are part of these structures. 

Once tinted glass came in those approaches were thrown out.  Glad they're "in" again.

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Steven Gottesman AIA
Senior Architect
URS Corporation
Sacramento CA
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RE:Environmentally Responsible Design Approaches
From: Steven Cox, AIA
To: Committee on Design
Posted: May 08, 2012 10:41 AM
Subject: RE:Environmentally Responsible Design Approaches
Message:
After having viewed the new sustainability documents through a posting on this forum, I was later asked to take a survey on the sustainablility contract documents. I applaud the AIA for giving us an opportunity to comment on them. I have read with interest the responses - appreciate that I am not the only person who thinks that sustainabililty is somewhat ill-defined. Here is my take on sustainability:
  1. Conceptually, it has merit. BUT, it lacks a clear definition.
  2. These are the steps that I recommend to better define sustainability.
    • First, identify all of the major components of sustainability.
    • Second, identify which of those components is (or should be) actually standard practice.
    • Third, base the "new" definition on the components that really are above and beyond standard practice.

I posted this "Environmentally Responsible" thread also under the Project Delivery Committee, and Mr. Wardlaw has a pretty good take on it. You can't beat a positive outlook on life!

One more request to the AIA website designers: First, I very much appreciate this new way for us to communicate and the excellent job you have done! If a thread is initiated and posted to more than one committee, would it be possible to link the threads together so that all postings from the different committees can be read under a single list/thread/whatever? Just a thought. In fact I would like to cross post this message to the Committee on Project Delivery, but can't make that happen.

The sustainability documents (thanks to Susan Parrish), are  here ... I tried a cut and paste. Hope it works.

That's all I have to say.


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Steven Cox AIA
President
Cox Architecture
Mccomb MS
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RE:Environmentally Responsible Design Approaches
From: Kathleen Simpson
To: Committee on Design
Posted: May 08, 2012 1:09 PM
Subject: RE:Environmentally Responsible Design Approaches
Message:
Steven et al,

Good question. Unfortunately, each AIA KnowledgeNet forum is distinct. Nonetheless, here are some tips to help you follow the conversations.

1. Join more Knowledge Communities. - You have to be a member of that community to post to a forum and to recieve the daily digests. The good news is joining any number of communities free to anyone. (Sending the daily digests to a emailbox folder, will keep you inbox clear.)

2. Select create a "new message" instead of "reply to discussion." - I hesitate to suggest this because "reply to discussion" auto-creates the thread. (See View Thread link as an example.). However, the reality is that "reply to discussion" will only populate the one forum you selected (even if you are a member of both). (I work on the backend to add those "orphan" posts to the correct thread.)"New Message" will allow you to cross-post to communities you are a members of.

3. Check out "Post in the last 24 hours, 7 days, 30 days" under Quick Links on the All Discussions webpage. - This is also a good alternative to email when paired with setting your forum email subscriptions to "No Email." 

4. Use the search box. - The site's search function crawls all site content. If you pull a unique text line from the conversation, it will pull all applicable results. 

Please feel free to contact me ("reply to sender") if you have any questions.

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The American Institute of Architects
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